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By: Michael Deacon
Published: Apr 3, 2024
For young people today, finding a partner of the opposite sex must be dreadfully hard. But this isn’t because of the pressure to look like an Instagram gym buff, or the horrors of dating apps, or the fact that no one under the age of 30 seems to drink alcohol any more.
It’s because these days, young men and women have got absolutely nothing in common.
Seriously. All of a sudden, they appear to have developed completely different values. It’s unprecedented. In the past, the two sexes tended to hold roughly similar views on politics. But research compiled over the past five years shows that in Britain – and indeed other Western countries – young women have become more progressive, while young men have become more conservative. And the resulting ideological gap is now staggeringly vast.
Alice Evans, an academic at King’s College London, is writing a book on this phenomenon, entitled The Great Gender Divergence. She says it’s been caused by a variety of factors, including “social media bubbles” and “economic resentment”. Whatever the reasons for it, though, I think there is a vital point we’re in danger of missing. Which is that only one of the two sexes is strictly responsible.
Recently, the Financial Times published some charts illustrating how the gulf between young men and women has grown in each Western country. And in every chart, there is an unmistakable pattern. The political views of young men haven’t actually altered all that much. Their drift to the Right has been really quite gentle.
The political views of young women, however, have changed dramatically. Their move to the Left has been abrupt and profound. In truth, then, this cavernous ideological divide is almost entirely attributable to them.
Which is curious. Because, whenever the divide is discussed by politicians and commentators, they make it sound as if the problem is young men. They fret endlessly about how young men today are being “radicalised” by nasty Right-wing YouTubers such as Andrew Tate, or horrid Right-wing politicians such as Donald Trump.
Yet they never apply this word “radicalised” to young women. Why not? I suspect it’s because these politicians and commentators tend to be progressive themselves. Therefore, they see no problem with young women becoming drastically more progressive. In their view, the more progressive someone is, the better. So the fault lies entirely with young men, for failing to emulate young women’s lurch to the Left.
Personally, though, I think this lurch Leftwards should alarm us all. The future of Western civilisation is already threatened by our collapsing birth rates. And this sudden ideological chasm between the sexes is only going to make the crisis worse. No one’s going to be forming couples at all any more, if, on every first date, the woman asks, “What do you think of Gramsci?”, and the man replies, “He’s the type of striker Man Utd are crying out for.”
It’s a chilling thought. So clearly something must be done. Politicians must spend less time obsessing over the radicalisation of young men, and start paying attention to the radicalisation of young women, instead.
As it happens, the Labour Party has announced that, when it’s in power, it will help to combat the influence that Andrew Tate has on boys. Surely it would make more sense to help combat the influence The Guardian has on girls.
Otherwise, the only way young men are going to get a girlfriend is by frantically boning up on George Monbiot and Owen Jones. And if that’s what the future has to hold, perhaps Western civilisation isn’t worth saving, after all.
[ Via: https://archive.md/WlLXk ]
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Apparently, it's not "radicalization" when you're calling for the extermination of the Jews; so sexist and racist that you call everyone else "oppressors"; teaching kids about the objectively true mythology of metaphysical "gender" thetans; advocating for the compulsory elimination of all privately-owned property and its forcible redistribution; and/or chanting for the dismantling of society itself.
No, that's not radicalization. It's just the self-evident values of all right-thinking people.
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#radicalization#far left#far left radicals#liberal society#liberalism#liberal values#illiberalism#religion is a mental illness
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There are now flyers up on campus that are along the lines of "Republicans are fascists. Democrats are complicit in fascism for not convincing me to oppose fascism."
Oddly, not being convinced that fascism is worth opposing does not seem to make one complicit in fascism. Also, like... fuck off?
#I swear to god this election season moderated me#in the sense of the opposite of radicalized#I'd still say I'm quite far left but my priority has always been getting shit done#and seeing the amount of leftists who just do not give a shit about accomplishing anything is enraging
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literally so many people my age who were online in 06 have talked about how they were targeted and groomed by strangers on the internet. Kids have been sold extremism and abuse from the internet since theyve had access to it. I do think the internet is worse but dont pretend it was ever a safe or healthy place for kids to hang out
#barry.txt#just because something is worse now doesnt mean it was good in the past#it just means people have given up on actual education and protection measures unless forced to care by the FCC#its not worse its just more organized and far more entrenched in a kids life#before the youtube algorithm kids got radicalized on 4chan message boards and random forums#tiktok misogyny only picked up where the 00s and the cracks of 10s pop feminism left off#nostalgia is a mind trick!
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Everyone should watch this video ☝️!
Also as a bonus, here's the top comment and I think it explains well the issue and how it ends up being about male privileges again :
#the fun part is that you can double check by yourself. But sure far left women who love abortions and want to abolish gender are to blame to#for some male genocide lmaooo#tras are mras#radblr#radical feminism#smash the patriarchy#terfblr#gender critical#sex not gender#radfem safe#radblr safe#terfsafe#terf is a slur#tim misogyny#gendie brainrot receipts#tra receipts#tra misogyny#trans genocide#trans day of remembrance#critical thinking#free speech#male moment#male privilege#male socialization#Reduxx#Instagram
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#controversial slightly radical political take incoming#im so sorry but i cant stand the 'vote blue no matter who' crowd like yall are the reason why we are in this mess in the first place#pushing unpopular centrist genocide supporting candidates and then acting shocked that they lose and blaming liberals not voting-#when republicans would NEVER push a candidate as far left as biden and hillary are right and thats why they keep winning#and acting like committing genocide being a red line to not vote for someone is a bad thing be so fucking serious#they would vote for someone who supported the holocaust in the 40s as long as they called themselves a democrat while doing it#the fucking tactic of vote for our guy because the other guy is ~worse~ instead of giving people something to actually care about#ISNT WORKING OUT SO WELL HUH who would have thought#genuinely that is why bernie made it so far in 2016. because he made people hope that things could even start to change.#and unfortunately trump also did that for his base. and even more unfortunately. the dnc saw that and stomped it out. and then THEY lost.#fear mongering fascism to people watching protesters against genocide getting beaten by cops under the administration youre pushing#isn't exactly that convincing. sorry.#like yeah. we need the majority in the house and senate for sure. but president wise? you cant convince me there is a 'less' evil option#like how dare you even insinuate that after all that has been done in these past nine months tbh#i think its the fucking sugar coating that really pisses me off more than anything#like. you do not have to make biden out to be a good man in any way just to make trump seem like a bad one. thats already established.#youre voting for evil. either way. just accept it. there is no 'less'. trying to absolve yourself from that is what pisses me off.#and 'voting blue no matter who' is what got us all here in the first place. convincing ourselves that here is a less evil in every situatio#sorry. im done now. i just hate seeing all those guilt tripping 'well now you HAVE to vote' posts on my timeline.#politics
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#i keep seeing shit like “yall trumps victory wasn't caused by [x] it was caused by [y]”#when it was very obviously caused not only by [x] and [y] but also a billion other reasons that we don't have enough letters for#like yes gen z's radicalization to the far right is part of it#so is the biden administration's involvement in the genocide on palestine#so was the blatant racism and misogyny that's deeply ingrained in american culture#so was the absolutely dogshit democratic campaign trail#so was the far left's inability to understand the point of presidential elections#and that's definitely not all of the reasons either#there are probably a multitude of other problems that im not even aware of as of now#but instead of fighting over which specific one caused the most damage#we should be joining parts of our community that will actually fix or at the very least address the problems#that are running rampant and will only get worse over the next four years#2024 election
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our mother is so poisoned by propaganda that she literally called us sick for saying “this country is built on harming people and stealing land, do you really think that our government isn’t corrupt ?” like... and you say WE don’t know basic us history 💀💀
white cishet liberal is confronted with basic facts about the usa, yells and cries in response
#samuel🧿#its so infuriating too because ?? isn’t this common sense ???#isn’t the fact that america’s government is corrupt just ???? basic fucking knowledge ??????#WHY DOES SHE THINK THE GOVERNMENT LIKES HER ??????? IM SO CONFUSED 😭#like oh my gods you don’t know this because mainstream media is controlled by the ruling class of fucking course they aren’t gonna tell you#you have to do research#something you seem genuinely fucking incapable of#because you just ?? listen to the ruling class and the government when they tell you they’re the good guys ???#like what drugs do you have to be taking to GENUINELY BELIEVE that the government is good and not corrupt at all ever no siree#our mother calling us radical during our little debate was funny though#like oh my gods... your transsexual homosexual disabled punk anarchist son is... gasp !! RADICAL !!?? who woulda thunk it ! /sar#i don’t think her brain computes the fact that when i say im a leftist i mean it. like no i don’t just call myself that to be silly#i DO in fact want a revolution and hate capitalism and the government#i AM infact radical and hold far left beliefs like... homelessness is bad and... people shouldn’t have to slave away to survive or...#the government does corrupt things or... freedom (ACTUAL freedom not the propaganda freedom) is good...#anyways real punks are radical and extreme
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only just realising tumblr genuinely believes that everyone else shares their political opinions
#“’people won’t be more sympathetic to trump’’ they already are#‘biden shouldn’t be being nice’ he should if he doesn’t want to lose every voter over 30#this site is the radical left. if you are not placing yourself at the far end of the political spectrum you are wildly off#us politics#politics#us elections
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#the back and forth about voting on this website drives me insane because like. voting takes me 15 minutes.#so personally i will vote because it is one 15 minute task that may have a miniscule impact#and not spending those 15 minutes will have no impact#so#obviously for many people there are more impediments and those situations are more complicated!#but it feels like you have everyone yelling at each other as though the only options were#count on the democrats to fix everything and put all of your energy into the electoral system#or abandon any interaction with the system as a symbolic fuck you to the establishment (has no impact either)#like... y'all it's one day#idk it feels like the radical far left position on voting is still fundamentally a symbolic backlash to the annoying lib shit#that's more about positioning the individual identity in relation to liberals/electoral politics#than it is the actual material impact or lack thereof#if you can't get off work or the nearest polling place is very far away and you would rather prioritize other forms of action that's cool#if you want to take a brief period of time to help bring people to the voting booth that's cool too#or if you look at the world and genuinely can't stomach voting for joe biden? yeah that's real!#whatever#just make sure you're doing other shit for the rest of the year
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My irl social circle became so so trans dominated while dropping out i had forgor how bad it feels being in cis dominated institutions
#im not atuch with them they’re stuck with me but. had not missed it#i hadn’t forgotten public life or like#mostly cis familial circles#it has an additional layer of badness in school tho i feel. extra#exposed and restricted#and that’s in an art uni with mostly leftist students#just. far from left enough#not that anybody is leftist and anarchist enough for me-#i had done a short program to prepare health formation where i was surrounded by cis women always. but the teachers were#keeping less of an authoritative distance and those women were if not the most anti bogtry at least mature#the people in this dlass are mostly just out of high school and huh. have growth left to do#also there’s a bunch if gays but not really the radical kind and some people who definitely are somewhat trans but still battling their#internalized transphobia too much for what i would say to be well received#tired of being the most radical fucker in all the rooms i walk in it’s exhausting#making friends is hard also. in general#but i can’t help but feel looking genderweird and alt isn’t helping me (also i don’t do the first step lol that one’s on me)
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By: John Burn-Murdoch
Published: Jan 26, 2024
One of the most well-established patterns in measuring public opinion is that every generation tends to move as one in terms of its politics and general ideology. Its members share the same formative experiences, reach life’s big milestones at the same time and intermingle in the same spaces. So how should we make sense of reports that Gen Z is hyper-progressive on certain issues, but surprisingly conservative on others?
The answer, in the words of Alice Evans, a visiting fellow at Stanford University and one of the leading researchers on the topic, is that today’s under-thirties are undergoing a great gender divergence, with young women in the former camp and young men the latter. Gen Z is two generations, not one.
In countries on every continent, an ideological gap has opened up between young men and women. Tens of millions of people who occupy the same cities, workplaces, classrooms and even homes no longer see eye-to-eye.
In the US, Gallup data shows that after decades where the sexes were each spread roughly equally across liberal and conservative world views, women aged 18 to 30 are now 30 percentage points more liberal than their male contemporaries. That gap took just six years to open up.
Germany also now shows a 30-point gap between increasingly conservative young men and progressive female contemporaries, and in the UK the gap is 25 points. In Poland last year, almost half of men aged 18-21 backed the hard-right Confederation party, compared to just a sixth of young women of the same age.
Outside the west, there are even more stark divisions. In South Korea there is now a yawning chasm between young men and women, and it’s a similar situation in China. In Africa, Tunisia shows the same pattern. Notably, in every country this dramatic split is either exclusive to the younger generation or far more pronounced there than among men and women in their thirties and upwards.
The #MeToo movement was the key trigger, giving rise to fiercely feminist values among young women who felt empowered to speak out against long-running injustices. That spark found especially dry tinder in South Korea, where gender inequality remains stark, and outright misogyny is common.
In the country’s 2022 presidential election, while older men and women voted in lockstep, young men swung heavily behind the right-wing People Power party, and young women backed the liberal Democratic party in almost equal and opposite numbers.
Korea’s is an extreme situation, but it serves as a warning to other countries of what can happen when young men and women part ways. Its society is riven in two. Its marriage rate has plummeted, and birth rate has fallen precipitously, dropping to 0.78 births per woman in 2022, the lowest of any country in the world.
Seven years on from the initial #MeToo explosion, the gender divergence in attitudes has become self-sustaining. Survey data show that in many countries the ideological differences now extend beyond this issue. The clear progressive-vs-conservative divide on sexual harassment appears to have caused — or at least is part of — a broader realignment of young men and women into conservative and liberal camps respectively on other issues.
In the US, UK and Germany, young women now take far more liberal positions on immigration and racial justice than young men, while older age groups remain evenly matched. The trend in most countries has been one of women shifting left while men stand still, but there are signs that young men are actively moving to the right in Germany, where today’s under-30s are more opposed to immigration than their elders, and have shifted towards the far-right AfD in recent years.
It would be easy to say this is all a phase that will pass, but the ideology gaps are only growing, and data shows that people’s formative political experiences are hard to shake off. All of this is exacerbated by the fact that the proliferation of smartphones and social media mean that young men and women now increasingly inhabit separate spaces and experience separate cultures.
Too often young people’s views are overlooked owing to their low rates of political participation, but this shift could leave ripples for generations to come, impacting far more than vote counts.
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On average, men are more moderate and centrist in their views while, on average, women are more extremist in their views. Anyone suggesting that men as a whole, or on average, have shifted is gaslighting you, as the evidence does not support this assertion.
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy." -- George Orwell, "Nineteen Eighty-Four"
#The Rabbit Hole#John Burn Murdoch#radicalization#extremism#far left feminism#ideological extremism#religious extremism#religion is a mental illness
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just what men need to hear: "you're by default unworthy, unless you do what we deem useful, and that is: kill people!"
leftist romantization of the weaponization of male bodies is super progressive, and not misandric at all!
just like traditional disposability of males as cannon fodder in warfare. progressive like all-male conscription.
even the thickest fatherfucker here should not miss why this sociological left is incompatible with healthy masculinity: you fail to see males as human.
#anti leftist#misandry#male disposability#male dehumanization#this is what happens when gynecentric spaces become sectarian political bubbles#you promoted radicalizing males to the far-left by hallowing violence and now cry the far-right has beaten progressives to it
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George Carlin On Political Correctness
Source:Frustrated Idealist– The Great George Carlin in 1990. Source:The New Democrat “George Carlin talks about how groups and institutions are inclined to restrict the vocabulary you use with emphasis on the feminist movement.” From the Frustrated Idealist Source:Rob Logan– The Great George Carlin in 1990. From Rob Logan “Now I’ve probably got the feminists all pissed off at me because I’m…
#1990#2024#America#Authoritarianism#Collectivism#Communism#Far Left#Fascism#George Carlin Comedy#George Carlin HBO Special#George Carlin Standup Comedy#Manhattan#New Left#New York#New York City#Political Correctness#Radical Feminism#Radical Feminists#Socialism#Statism#The 1990s#United States#Woke
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Things we already know about the UHC shooter, mostly from his social media:
- He has a bachelor’s and Master’s in computer science from an Ivy League school.
- He has read several books on chronic back pain.
- His profile banner includes a photo of an x-ray for back surgery. (Spinal fusion I believe.)
- Based on messages from his family, he dropped off the map a few months ago and they’ve been worried about him.
- His political beliefs are a bit all over the map; without doing a deep-dive my take is a pretty average centrist tech bro who’s read too much evopsych.
I’m a bit worried that, as the left is so fond of doing, people will turn on him immediately for that last part. Let’s not do that! Can we agree not to do that? Because here’s the important thing:
He’s a victim of the system, just like we all are. The system pushed him past his limits, and he lashed out at it. The details of his political leanings don’t actually matter - what matters is that you don’t have to be a radical leftist to lash out at a health insurance company. That’s shows how bad things are broken, that a guy who seems fairly privileged in most respects, with no strong political motive, could be beaten down and broken to the point of doing this. He has two Ivy League computer science degrees and yet had nothing left to lose.
This is a class war that doesn’t differentiate between the working class, middle class, even upper middle class. We’re all dog food for the 1% to chew up and spit out. Even if he turned out to be hardcore right wing, in this one single issue we’re united with him.
Everyone’s been talking about how this guy has seen insane levels of support across the political spectrum - which means nobody should be shocked that he could have come from any spot on that spectrum. I’m hoping the fact that he doesn’t seem super far left or right politically will make it easier to keep that unity, but the left just looooves our purity tests. Let’s maybe not this time.
#uhc shooter#united healthcare#united healthcare shooting#luigi mangione#oh right and he’s super hot we know that too#notes
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Feeling really weird about this election cycle bc my closest friends are radical and refuse to vote for kamala, and while I totally understand not wanting to tick that box, there is a very real threat of 4 more years of trump and i'm like how.. can you overlook that??? like things might not get that much better under kamala, but they will get so much worse with trump. like we are suffering currently bc of trump's presidency and will continue to suffer for years to come. and they know this. everyone knows this. and yet. they continue to scream proudly that they refuse to vote for kamala, knowing that the only other option is trump, knowing that everything will be even more fucked. and it just makes me question what the fuck people stand on.
we are in california and our vote for president matters a little bit less, so sure, don't vote for kamala. as if it's cool or brave to withhold your vote "bc of principles" while knowing full-well it won't affect the outcome. that's not brave, my guy. that's privilege. but there are radical folks voting in states where it really matters, and they are having to put aside their griefs and frustrations to vote for someone who doesn't represent everything they stand for, and they are doing it because they know it's what's best for everyone as a whole. it doesn't make them less leftist or less principled. obviously everyone needs to make the decision for themselves, and if people can't stand the idea of ticking that box for kamala bc of her political history, they get to make that choice. but to me, it's such a selfish and privileged (and also kind of dumb???) act to withhold your vote knowing that the only other person who could become president is the worst person alive.
it's so confusing and silly to me. people's rights will be taken away but congrats on getting to stand on your principles i guess.
#yap#like what good is your radical politic if your actions lead to what conservatives want#everything is seen as a spectrum#but i think most spectrums are actually rings#where the two extreme sides bend all the way around and actually meet#and i think politics are like that where you can go so far left that you're almost far right#idk if this makes any sense but i just feel like some things my radical friends say and do is the same shit far right activists do#just with different clothes on#umis got an opinion#oh no#I love my friends so much I just feel weird!!!!!
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to be fair the further left one side goes the further right the other goes and vice-versa, the two phenomena don't have nothing to do with one another
#I'll give an example#I have taught both halves of an American History survey that splits at 1865#so half before half after#we talk about things like slavery westward expansion and immigration#as one does#it is not an exceptionally Woke School#though it is certainly firmly well to the left of center at its higher echelons#its student body is not#I know I have had conservative students and Trump students#now hear me out#if we are going to talk about something like eugenics or scientific racism#or regulation of immigration#all of the students invariably know the *kind* of answer they ought to have#and all of the students will know that if they deviate from the kind of answer they *should* have#the punishment will be swift and terrible#not necessarily from me#but they are well aware of the social consequences#now any good Leftist will hope that in a classroom they can draw out students' bigotry and biases and so on to rectify them#but if the student won't even admit to having them#because they know they cannot admit to having them#how could you--even if you want to correct it--even begin to draw it out?#so the students who are so inclined become adept at saying one thing while their hearts are far away#the practical effect of the intellectual domination of academic institutions by the left#is that right-wing people just become more entrenched in their own reality#a student who is skeptical of open borders will not say so in class#or only in the most glancing way#and if they are shamed#the shame will just impel them into greater rather than less radical beliefs#I am not sure what is the solution to this but I know it exists#and right wing people have a version of this too of course because it's human
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